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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Agent on 14/06/2007 17:36:33
As a dedicated EVE player and as an Englishman, I am truly disappointed by the level of sophistication this community shows in their manner and in their forum postings. This community is (or at least, was) alleged to be a community of well educated players, and it is simply not showing these days.
This is NOT aimed at those of you who don't speak English natively; rather it is aimed at those who claim to be native English speakers (and usually show a poorer understanding of basic grammar and spelling than those who aren't).
So without further ado, some pointers for you.
- You're means "You are"
- Your means "Your", referring to something you possess, such as "Your character is a dirty Minmatar"
- They're means "They are"
- Their means "Their", referring to something somebody else (a group, entity, or unknown number of person(s)) posesses, as in "Their alliance isn't worth its weight in Veldspar"
- it's means "it is"
- its means "its", referring to a property or possession of something, for example "I stabbed its face with my fork"
- A character is NOT a "toon"
- "I could care less" is incorrect, the phrase is "I couldn't care less". Think about the meaning of the phrase.
I don't claim to be a perfect English speaker, however it really does upset me when folks use one of the above terms incorrectly whilst trying to "one-up" their enemies on these forums. It is often apparent which side is giving the more educated responses by the way that they portray their thoughts.
~Alpha
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Agent on 14/06/2007 18:08:56
 Originally by: Keira Fordring
The only thing I disagree with is that a "character" can, in fact, be a "toon".
I understand from where your disagreement stems, however in the English language, "toon" is a colloquial shortening of "cartoon", the definition of which is universally accepted as an animation.
In American-adapted English, "toon" may refer to any number of animated characters in such an animation. Under no definition does "toon" apply to a non-animated character.
I can see why "toon" might be applicable in a game such as World of Warcraft, where your character could be defined as a "toon" under lax American English, however this terminology is not relevant to this game since your character is not animated (yet).
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Agent on 14/06/2007 18:40:01
Originally by: Mithfindel
While I do perfectly agree with the OP, I cannot resist noting that I haven't this far seen a single language where titles or headlines end with a period (".").
You're quite right, of course. I have corrected the post title.
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mrmuttley
excessive ROLFCOPTOR!!!!!!!
Haha, how many ROFLCOPTORs is excessive?
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Agent on 14/06/2007 18:58:55
Originally by: Adonis 4174
"I could care less" is sarcasm.
Apologies, but this statement is beyond my comprehension, would you please explain why that phrase is sarcastic?
Originally by: Diragi
Grammer a little messed up? In those two sentences there are probably close to a dozen items that need correcting...
However, the post you are referring to was sarcasm!
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Stoner Sid
most of the mistakes are due to pure laziness or just quikness. tbh both are because people are at home and cudnt give a **** about grammer and just wanna laf
I find this amusing, because it's possible to spot a Goonswarm alt without so much as a passing doubt.
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
Given that "I could care less" is an insult...
No, it's not.
The correct phrase "I couldn't care less" is coined to mean "I don't care".
"I could care less" technically means "I do care a little", which simply makes no sense.
There is no form of sarcasm in either of these statements.
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
The correct phrase "I could care less" is an insult implying through sarcasm that you could not care less. It is an insult.
I will be charitable and assume you don't understand sarcasm. Have a nice day.
You have indirectly answered my original post.
Through your "interesting" thoughts on sarcasm, I now understand that there are some who will never grasp simple concepts of language or dialect.
The only thing I can hope is that my original post might have persuaded one or two people to think more carefully before they post utter drivel on these forums.
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Some people might not "crasp" the finetunings of the english language, probably because they don't use it daily.
Please, do me the simple courtesy of reading my original post before you reply.
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
You can't say "Some people type badly" and then say "Ofcourse this is only aimed at english types." when you can't tell which person is or isn't one.
Actually, I can quite easily tell the difference between someone who speaks bad English and someone who speaks good English badly.
Non-English native speakers might not use complex vocabulary and grammar, but they form their sentences well and generally put a good effort into their posts.
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Agent on 14/06/2007 19:53:12
Originally by: Montague Zooma
I could care less about the point you're making if you continue to complain about it.
That would be a correct use of the phrase, however I have never seen it used as such (and it is still devoid of sarcasm)
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Alpha Agent
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Posted - 2007.06.14 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Agent on 14/06/2007 20:19:40
I guess I am uptight, because it angers me to see the English language get butchered and mistaken by the very people who are supposed to speak it.
I appreciate that this might seem arrogant to some.
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